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John Law- Scaling Bitcoin with Inherited IDs – an imperative proposal

If you haven’t already you should to take the time to read this brilliant proposal.
Participants should vet and grasp the *(TIMEOUT-TREES)* *(UPDATE-FOREST)* *(CHALLENGE-AND-RESPONSE)* concepts.
I look forward to the necessary inclusion of Bitcoin and Lightning Network Devs (and participants) to comprehensively understand these concepts and the totality of the proposal. (See John Laws response to ZmnSCPxj)

At this point in the timeline if you’re looking for an ELI5 I urge you to simply read over the proposal; or at least the previously mentioned concepts – an oversimplification does not give it justice – It’s an academia piece so the dense portions are marginal compared to the broad dynamics and their implications. I welcome open discussion and I reckon any/all input is welcome. Thank you for your time, cheers.

*Below I’ve provided sufficient links on the “progress” of the proposal.*

John Law IIDs GitHub- https://github.com/JohnLaw2/btc-iids/blob/main/iids14.pdf

Anthony AJ Towns Response to John Law- https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2021-September/003231.html

John Law Response to AJ- https://github.com/JohnLaw2/btc-iids/blob/main/response_to_towns_20210918_113740.txt

ZmnSCPxj Response to John Law- https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2021-September/003234.html

John Law Response to ZmnSCPxj- https://github.com/JohnLaw2/btc-iids/blob/main/response_to_ZmnSCPxj_20210921_021142.txt



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  1. Very interesting. Thx for sharing. I however did not understand the IIDs completely. Why do they not depend on the full parent transaction?
    I understood they are the hash of the output point of the parent transaction which includes the parent transaction ID, which in turn is a hash of the entire parent transaction.

    Thx also for the links to the mailing list posts. There are important questions and points raised.

  2. Also, regarding

    > One Layer 2 protocol, the Lightning Network, requires no changes to Bitcoin and is currently deployed.

    Yeah, that’s because we already integrated the required change to Bitcoin back in 2017. That was one of the major driving forces behind SegWit.

  3. You know, if we’d just adopt BIP300 drivechains, all these upgrade proposals could run their own real-Bitcoin networks any time they wanted to, and validate their code, and get all the adoption that they deserve.

    Then they can be integrated into the main line any time after they’ve proven themselves.

    Just a thought.

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